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Lawfare Daily: The Trials of the Trump Administration, Feb. 13

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🗓️ 16 February 2026

⏱️ 102 minutes

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Summary

In a live conversation on YouTube, Lawfare Editor in Chief Benjamin Wittes sat down with Lawfare Senior Editors Eric Columbus, Roger Parloff, and Anna Bower, Lawfare Public Service Fellow Troy Edwards, and Lawfare Student Contributor Peyton Baker to discuss the arraignment of Don Lemon and his co-defendants in Minnesota, affidavits released for the FBI search of Fulton County, the Justice Department’s attempt to wipe out Steve Bannon’s conviction, and more.


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0:00.0

It's the Lawfare podcast. I'm Benjamin Wittes, editor-in-chief of Lawfare with Lawfare Senior

0:11.7

editors Eric Columbus, Roger Parloff, Anna Bauer, Lawfare Public Service fellow Troy Edwards,

0:20.3

and Lawfare student contributor, Hayden Baker.

0:24.3

In the February 13th episode of the trials of the Trump administration, we talked about

0:30.5

the arraignment of Don Lemon and his co-defendants in Minnesota.

0:35.2

Affidavits released for the FBI search of a Fulton County Election Center

0:40.8

and much, much more.

0:51.1

It is Friday, February 13, 20. It is 4 o'clock p.m. in Washington, D.C., and you are watching Lawfare Live.

1:05.6

I'm Benjamin Wittes, editor-in-chief of Lawfare, and I am here with Lawfare Senior Editors,

1:13.7

Roger Parloff, Anna Bauer, Eric Columbus, Lawfare Public Service Fellow,

1:20.1

Troy Edwards, also known as LT, and the rare appearance by a Lawfare student contributor,

1:29.3

Peyton Blake, sorry, Peyton Baker,

1:33.3

Peyton, LT, I think this is your first time too.

1:38.3

Welcome to Lawfare Live.

1:40.3

Thank you so much.

1:42.3

Thank you for having me. So we are So we have a lot to get through today.

1:48.0

And but let's start with the latest grand jury that did not do as instructed.

2:00.0

And this one I think is a first in grand jury that did not do as instructed.

2:11.1

And this one, I think, is a first in that not only did it not vote to indict the people who the president's folks were targeting.

2:13.3

It seems to have voted unanimously not to indict them. So, L.T., what do we know about this rogue

2:23.1

grand jury that has behaved so inconsistently with what was expected of it? Yes. I mean, I'll, the only

2:32.9

premise I'll push back on is I'm not sure which parties acted so impermissibly or uncharacteristically.

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