Lawfare Daily: The Gaza Ceasefire and Where It May Lead
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🗓️ 22 January 2025
⏱️ 66 minutes
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Summary
For today’s episode, Lawfare Senior Editor Scott R. Anderson sat down with a panel of leading experts to discuss the recent ceasefire in Gaza, including: Natan Sachs, Senior Fellow at the Brookings Institution; Dan Byman, Professor at Georgetown University and Senior Fellow at the Center for Strategic and International Studies; Joel Braunold, Managing Director of the S. Daniel Abraham Center for Middle East Peace; and Dr. Dana El-Kurd, Professor at the University of Richmond.
They discussed the terms of the ceasefire, who deserves credit for bringing it into place, what factors may contribute to its ultimate success or failure, and where it is likely to lead in the weeks and months to come.
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| 1:07.4 | In most of these kind of cease-front arrangements, especially early on, there are often a lot of violations, sometimes on both sides, sometimes by one side. |
| 1:15.6 | And so the real question becomes, at what point does a tactical violation become political failure? |
| 1:21.9 | Where someone says this violation is enough to sink the whole deal as opposed to we're going to protest. |
| 1:28.0 | It's the Lawfare podcast. I'm Senior Editor Scott R. Anderson, here with Natanz Sack, |
| 1:33.0 | senior fellow at the Brookings Institution. Dan Biman, senior fellow at the Center for Strategic |
| 1:36.9 | and International Studies. Joel Brunold, managing director of the S. Daniel Abraham Center for |
| 1:41.5 | Middle East Peace and Dr. Donna Elkird of the University of Richmond. |
| 1:45.9 | With the Trump administration's foreign policy, it's a fun house mirror. You see into it what you want. |
| 1:51.4 | You can look at Tucker Carlson not giving a standing ovation when President Trump mentioned the hostages yesterday, |
| 1:57.3 | and you can see the reactions in pro-Israel media freaking out. You can look at Steve |
| 2:02.2 | Whitkoff's relationship with Qatar or his relationships with the Republican Jewish Committee. |
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