Lawfare Daily: Scott Singer on AI and U.S.-China Relations
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🗓️ 10 July 2024
⏱️ 43 minutes
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Scott Singer, Co-Founder and Director of the Oxford China Policy Lab, joins Kevin Frazier, a Tarbell Fellow at Lawfare, to discuss AI in the context of ongoing and, arguably, increasing tensions between China and the U.S. This conversation covers potential limits on China’s AI ambitions, the durability of the current bipartisan consensus among U.S. officials on the China question, and the factors that may accelerate the race to artificial general intelligence between China and the U.S.
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| 0:30.0 | Ah, she's brilliant. Miss, I finally got plans out the group chat. We get it. Four votes for a festival, |
| 0:38.0 | three for a city break. It's hard to adhere to everyone's needs. There's Betty with her oversized tent, Sarah and her six foot eight boyfriend. |
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| 0:51.4 | But like a marriage counselor, she's the one keeping things together. |
| 0:54.8 | All aboard Miss I finally got plans out the group chat. |
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| 1:00.1 | P, and O'Ferees, that is another way. |
| 1:08.0 | We're talking about the US-China AI relationship. This is really a multilateral-in-gloc issue in part because |
| 1:12.0 | when you have other addresses some who you know can fill in |
| 1:16.2 | key gaps if you decide to use economic saycraft in a certain way then what |
| 1:20.8 | they do matters. It's the Lawfair Podcast. |
| 1:24.0 | I'm Kevin Frazier, a Tarbell Fellow at Lawfair, |
| 1:27.0 | with Scott Singer, co-founder and director of the Oxford China Policy Lab. |
| 1:32.0 | Everything about AI in general, there's sort of these three critical inputs. |
| 1:35.8 | We have the algorithms, we have the data, and we have the compute, the hardware that is going |
| 1:40.5 | into training all of these systems. |
| 1:42.0 | And so after export controls, the story |
| 1:44.8 | coming out of China is, well, there is not enough compute to train these models. |
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