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Lawfare Daily: National Security Regulation of Technology and Data Transactions

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🗓️ 18 February 2026

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

Lawfare Book Review Editor Jonathan Cedarbaum sits down with Justin Sherman, the CEO of Global Cyber Strategies, to discuss his new book, "Navigating Technology and National Security: The Intersection of CFIUS, Team Telecom, AI Controls, and Other Regulations," in which Sherman describes and assesses the proliferation of U.S. regulatory programs designed to guard against national security risks arising from transactions involving technology and data.

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0:00.0

The Electronic Communications Privacy Act turns 40 this year, and it's showing its age.

0:06.0

On Friday, March 6th, Lawfare and Georgetown Law are bringing together leading scholars,

0:11.1

practitioners, and former government officials for installing updates to ECPA, a half-day event

0:16.6

on what's broken with the statute and how to fix it. The event is free and open to the public, in person and online.

0:23.2

Visit lawfaremedia.org slash ECPA event.

0:26.4

That's lawfaremedia.org slash ECPA event for details and to register.

0:35.2

When we talk about the complexity of how do you prevent the export of a physical thing that just is so different, even if it's a really small chip, that's still quite different than how do you prevent someone from uploading something onto the internet, which is really just a qualitatively and quantitatively different sort of question.

0:53.0

It's the Lawfare podcast.

0:55.5

I'm Jonathan Cedarbaum, Lawfare's book review editor, here with Justin Sherman, the founder

1:01.9

and CEO of Global Cyber Strategies.

1:05.4

It's really important to understand how entangled and how interdependent these systems are,

1:10.4

how that interdependence

1:11.5

can be weaponized, because these are not decisions you can easily reverse, right? It's not the case

1:17.5

that you can kind of let these programs sit here for a year, then pick them back up and nothing's

1:21.8

changed, right? This isn't, you know, pausing like a Netflix episode. I mean, these is a highly

1:25.8

sophisticated set of regulations.

1:28.3

Adversaries are not taking a holiday because the offices are not staffed or because they're

1:33.0

distracted with other nonsense. Today, we're talking about Justin's brand new book,

1:38.8

Navigating Technology and National Security, the intersection of Siphyas, Team Telecom, AI controls, and other regulations.

1:47.9

Just published by Wiley.

1:49.9

Justin, tell our listeners a little bit about your background and why you chose to write this book.

1:56.2

I'm a computer scientist and international relations person by background. So naturally the sort of contours of the

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