Lawfare Daily: How to Protect Undersea Cables with Kevin Frazier
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🗓️ 24 May 2024
⏱️ 47 minutes
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Summary
Undersea cables carry more than 95 percent of the world’s digital traffic. The system of cables is vulnerable to a range of threats, from fishing accidents and acts of nature to tampering from state actors. To discuss how to best protect this critical infrastructure, Lawfare's Fellow in Technology Policy and Law, Eugenia Lostri, talked with Kevin Frazier Assistant Professor at St. Thomas University College of Law and Lawfare's Tarbell Fellow. They talked about the different types of threats to undersea cables, the importance of redundancy, and what's in the way of policy solutions.
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| 0:56.0 | Find out more about our zero carbon generation at EDF Energy.com slash Help in Britain. Undersea cables are critical to national security and yet we continue to see just a lack of attention being paid to protecting this critical infrastructure in an adequate way. |
| 1:19.4 | It's the Lawfer Podcast. I'm O'Heney Al Lohtri,Fere's Fellow in Technology Policy in Law, with Kevin Frazier, assistant |
| 1:26.7 | professor at St Thomas University College of Law, and Lawfere's Tarville follow. |
| 1:32.6 | If you knew that you were relying on Google, Meta, Amazon, and Microsoft for 99% of our internet |
| 1:40.9 | traffic, then surely we would have a bit of more public pressure on these |
| 1:46.1 | companies to be more responsible owners and more responsible stewards of this critical infrastructure. |
| 1:54.0 | Today we're talking about the importance of undersea cables and how to protect them. |
| 1:59.6 | Now undersea cables carry more than 95% of the world's digital traffic. |
| 2:04.2 | I think that's the line that absolutely every single article or paper about undersea cables |
| 2:10.7 | needs to start with. Now, this makes them both an asset and a target, |
| 2:16.0 | particularly at a time of heightened tensions like we're living in today. |
| 2:21.0 | And in the past few years, I think we've seen increased interest not just in the danger that is |
| 2:27.1 | posed to them by accidents or acts of nature, but also the way in which state actors can temper with the cables. |
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