Lawfare Daily: DHS Under Secretary Robert Silvers on the CSRB's Report on the Summer 2023 Microsoft Exchange Online Intrusion
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🗓️ 22 May 2024
⏱️ 39 minutes
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In March, the Cyber Safety Review Board issued a report examining the Summer 2023 Microsoft Exchange Online Intrusion. Stephanie Pell, Senior Editor at Lawfare, sat down with Robert Silvers, Under Secretary for Policy at the Department of Homeland Security and Chair of the Cyber Safety Review Board to discuss the report. They talked about the Board’s determination that the intrusion was preventable and should never have occurred, Microsoft’s response to the report, and the Board’s unique role as a true public-private partnership, giving it a powerful position from which to drive change.
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| 0:30.0 | The hackers affiliated with the Chinese government were able to obtain what's called |
| 0:37.1 | a signing key from Microsoft. |
| 0:40.9 | And a signing key is essentially the cryptographic crown jewels of a cloud provider. |
| 0:47.0 | It's the lawfare podcast. I'm Stephanie Pell, senior editor at Law Fair, with Robert Silver's Undersecretary for Policy at the Department of Homeland Security and chair of the Cyber Safety Review Board. |
| 1:03.7 | I think any time you can make the conversation about security |
| 1:08.9 | and how to protect customers, that's a really positive thing. |
| 1:13.0 | And if different cloud companies are responding to the |
| 1:18.0 | Cyber Safety Review Board's work |
| 1:21.0 | by upping their security game that's a fabulous impact the board can make. |
| 1:27.0 | Today we're talking about the Cyber Safety Review Board's report on the Summer |
| 1:33.0 | 2023 Microsoft Exchange Online Intrusion. |
| 1:37.0 | Rob, before we get into the weeds of the Cyber Safety Review Board's most recent report. |
| 1:44.0 | Can you give us some background about the Board? |
| 1:47.0 | What is its mission? |
| 1:48.0 | The Cyber Safety Review Board conducts deep fact-finding and then issues recommendations in the wake of major |
| 1:56.8 | cyber incidents. |
| 1:59.2 | The Board is truly public private. |
| 2:02.3 | Half the members are all the key federal leads for cyber security, |
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