Lawfare Daily: Conversations from Aspen, Part 2: Ali Nazary on the Future of Afghanistan and Sam Charap on the Ukraine Conflict

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🗓️ 24 July 2025

⏱️ 59 minutes

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For today's episode, Senior Editor Scott R. Anderson is sharing more of the conversations he had with leading policy experts and practitioners on the margins of this year's Aspen Security Forum, which took place last week.

First, he is joined by Ali Nazary, the head of foreign relations for the National Resistance Front of Afghanistan, to discuss the Front's position nearly four years after the collapse of Kabul—and what Russia's recent recognition of the Taliban may mean for Afghanistan's future.

Scott then sat down with Sam Charap, the Distinguished Chair in Russia and Eurasia Policy at the RAND Corporation, to discuss Trump's recent pivot on support for Ukraine and where the conflict may be headed next.

This is part two of two. So if you missed them earlier this week, look back in this podcast feed for more conversations from Aspen.

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