Lawfare Archive: The New Syrian Government and Its Problems
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🗓️ 28 March 2026
⏱️ 32 minutes
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From March 19, 2025: For today's episode, Lawfare Foreign Policy Editor Daniel Byman interviewed Steven Heydemann, the Director of the Middle East Studies Program at Smith College, to assess the fast-changing developments in Syria today. Heydemann discusses the surge in communal violence in Syria, the deal between the new Hayat Tahrir al-Sham-led government and Syria's Kurds, Israel's counterproductive interventions, and U.S. policy toward the new regime in Damascus.
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| 0:00.0 | I'm Marissa Wong, Internet Lawfare, with an episode from the Lawfare |
| 0:14.0 | for March 28, 2006. |
| 0:19.0 | As part of the ongoing conflict between the United States, Israel, and Iran, the U.S. is reportedly |
| 0:24.6 | encouraging the Syrian government to cooperate on counterterrorism efforts and send troops into |
| 0:29.6 | eastern Lebanon to disarm Hezbollah. |
| 0:32.4 | Although it has previously signaled a willingness to cooperate with Western countries, the Al-Shera |
| 0:37.3 | government seems reluctant to further infl Western countries, the Al-Shara government seems |
| 0:38.0 | reluctant to further inflamed tensions in the Middle East. |
| 0:41.5 | For today's archive, I chose an episode from March 19, 2025, in which Stephen Heideman |
| 0:48.5 | joined Daniel Biman to discuss the Syrian government's transition from the Assad regime to a |
| 0:53.7 | government led by Ahmed al-Shara, |
| 0:55.8 | who was the former leader of an Islamist armed group. |
| 0:59.0 | The pair also discussed Israeli interventions in Syria, |
| 1:02.4 | the U.S.'s attitude toward theiman, the foreign policy editor of Lawfare, |
| 1:23.1 | and I'm here today with Steve Heideman. He is a professor of Middle Eastern Studies at Smith College and a longtime observer of the Middle East. |
| 1:35.3 | Almost immediately on the heels of the collapse of the Assad regime, Israel intervened militarily in Syria and now occupies a significant territory in southern Syria |
| 1:45.9 | and seems to be setting itself up as a permanent or semi-permanent presence in southern Syria. |
| 1:54.5 | Today we're talking about the new government in Syria and the many problems that Syria is facing. |
| 2:09.6 | Steve, the situation in Syria has been rapidly changing not only with the overthrow of Bashar Assad, but in the months that have followed. |
| 2:13.6 | Can you catch us up since the fall of the regime? |
| 2:16.6 | How has the situation evolved? |
| 2:19.6 | Sure. I'm happy to be here with you, Dan. And I should say this is an especially auspicious |
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