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Lawfare Archive: Daniel Byman on Al Qaeda and its Affiliates

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🗓️ 30 April 2022

⏱️ 25 minutes

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From August 22, 2012: This is the second in a series of interviews Ritika Singh is doing with scholars around town who have non-legal expertise that bears on the national security law issues Lawfare readers care about. As she did in her first piece with Brookings Senior Fellow Bruce Riedel, she is posting the full interview as an episode of the Lawfare Podcast and writing up a summary of their conversation as well.

The subject this time is Daniel Byman, Senior Fellow and Director of Research at the Saban Center for Middle East Policy at Brookings, and a professor at Georgetown University's Security Studies Program. Byman is one of the country’s foremost experts on counterterrorism and the Middle East. He served as a staff member on the 9/11 Commission, and has worked for the U.S. government and at the RAND Corporation. He recently published a paper entitled Breaking the Bonds between Al Qaeda and its Affiliate Organizations that Ritika describes in more detail here. They sat down for a discussion of the major themes that make up his paper—themes that dovetail with those Ritika discussed with Riedel in her first interview. 

In May 2022, Lawfare and Goat Rodeo will debut their latest podcast, Allies, a series about America’s eyes and ears over 20 years of war in Afghanistan. Thousands of Afghans who worked with the American soldiers as translators, interpreters and partners made it onto U.S. military planes. But despite the decades-long efforts of veterans, lawmakers and senior leaders in the military, even more were left behind. This show will take you from the frontlines of the war to the halls of Congress to find out: How did this happen? Learn more and subscribe to Allies at https://pod.link/1619035873.

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I'm Katherine Pompilia with an episode from the LawFair archive for April 30, 2022.

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LawFair recently announced its new podcast series entitled Allies.

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The series from LawFair's Bryce Clem and the team at Goat Roadio DC

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tells the 20-year story of how the US failed its eyes and ears,

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translators, interpreters, and other local partners that were on the ground in Afghanistan.

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For today's archive episode, I picked an episode from August 2012.

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In the episode, Ridicossinghs had stopped with Daniel Beiman to discuss Beiman's paper entitled,

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Breaking the Bonds Between Al-Qaeda and its affiliate organizations.

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But first, here's a trailer for Allies.

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You can subscribe to Allies at a link in the episode description.

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After 20 years of war, the US was getting out of Afghanistan.

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After consulting closely with our allies and partners,

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I've concluded that it's time to end America's longest war.

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It's time for American troops to come home.

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