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Lawfare Archive: Canada Takes on the Proud Boys

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🗓️ 4 September 2023

⏱️ 46 minutes

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From February 12, 2021: Lost in the shuffle of an impeachment trial here in the United States was big news from Canada last week. Canada’s Minister of Public Safety added the Proud Boys to Canada’s terror entity list. The listing might be in Canada, but the group had a role in the January 6 storming of the U.S. Capitol. The listing has all sorts of interesting legal and national security implications, so Jacob Schulz talked it through with two Canadian national security experts. Jessica Davis is a former senior strategic intelligence analyst with the Canadian Security Intelligence Service who is now the president of Insight Threat Intelligence and a PhD student at the Norman Paterson School of International Affairs at Carleton University. And Leah West is an assistant professor of International Affairs at Carleton University and serves as counsel with Friedman Mansour LLP. They talked about right-wing extremism in Canada, what the consequences of the listing might be and what it reveals about the relationship between Canada and the United States.

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no bull, and the aftermath.

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I'm Geococotoccus, intern at LawFair, with an episode from the LawFair Archive for September

0:45.5

4, 2023. This week, two former leaders of the proud boys were sentenced to 17 years and

0:52.9

15 years respectively in prison for seditious conspiracy, along with other crimes committed

0:58.2

during the January 6th Capitol attack. For today's archive episode, I picked an episode

1:03.9

from February 12, 2021, in which Jacob Schultz sat down with Jessica Davis and Leah West

1:10.9

to discuss the addition of the proud boys to Canada's terror entity list by Canada's

1:15.7

Minister of Public Safety. They talked about right-wing extremism in Canada, with the consequences

1:21.5

of the listing might be, what it reveals about the relationship between Canada and the

1:25.7

United States, and more.

1:35.7

I'm Jacob Schultz, and this is the LawFair podcast, February 12, 2021. Lost in the shuffle

1:43.9

of an impeachment trial here in the US was big news from Canada last week. Canada's Minister

1:49.5

of Public Safety added the proud boys, a right-wing group, to Canada's terror entity list.

1:56.3

The listing might be in Canada, but the group did have a role in the January 6th storming

2:00.6

in the US Capitol. The listing has all sorts of interesting legal and national security

2:05.9

implications. So I talked to two Canadian national security experts to think it all through.

2:12.5

Jessica Davis is a former senior strategic intelligence analyst with the Canadian Security

2:17.0

Intelligence Service, who is now the president of Insight Threat Intelligence and a PhD student

2:22.4

at the Norman Patterson School of International Affairs at Carlton University. And Leah West

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