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the bulwark, and I am joined today by Senator Richard Blumenthal, my home state of Connecticut.

We are going to be talking about law firms, those that have capitulated to Donald Trump

and those that have not capitulated and the explanations that they're giving.

And also just sort of the morality around.

Senator, thank you so much.

Thank you.

I appreciate being on with you.

Thank you, Sam, for having me.

Okay.

So let's talk in sort of broadstructs to begin with.

What was your original reaction when you saw Paul Weiss, which was the first firm,

really, to enter into negotiations with Donald Trump and then to decide to settle with Donald Trump

after they were targeted by an executive order from Donald Trump?

Sam, I'll be really bluntly honest with you.

I was speechless.

Literally, I was absolutely astonished that a law firm with the reputation and the storied history of Paul Weiss, standing strong for constitutional rights, the civil rights movement,

would agree or even consider agreeing to this shakedown from the President of the United States.

And of course, it gave as an excuse that it was afraid of losing clients or even some of its leading partners.

And I was equally appalled that other firms in the legal profession, reportedly Sullivan and Cromwell,

would try to poach their business or their personnel.

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