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Welcome to Late Night Woman's Hour.

I'm Lauren Levern and each month we invite guests on the programme to talk about what matters to them. Deciding our brief tonight are Zing Singh Singh, Editor of Vicer's Broadly Channel and author of the Forgotten Women Books, Zing Welcome. Thank you so much for having me.

Comedian Viv Groskopp, who's managed to join us despite her new show, Vivalicious,

heading to Edinburgh is here. Welcome, Viv.

Thank you very much.

Vivalicious, strictly present and ready for you.

I'm feeling more Vivalicious myself already.

And we also have evolutionary anthropologist Dr. Anna Maychin, author of The Life of Dad. Welcome, Anna.

Thank you. And dads might come up later, I understand. I believe so. Okay. Good. We're going to start

with something that you wanted to talk about, Zing upskirting. And for you, I believe this

falls into the category of things that you can't believe are illegal yet. Right. Yeah. So in case any of you haven't been following what's been going on,

an amazing women's rights campaigner called Gina Martin was upskirted at a festival, I believe.

She kind of looked down and found someone was literally trying to take a picture up her skirt.

She tried to report him to the police, only to be told

that upskirting is not a criminal offence. So she took her cause all the way to the government,

and the government is now about to pass the bill to make it illegal. No thanks to certain MPs

who have attempted to filibuster and block the bill, specifically Christopher Chope, I believe,

and Philip Davies, who attempted to filibuster

the bill. So upskirting definitely comes very, very high up on my list on things that I cannot

believe are not yet illegal. But hopefully, fingers crossed, it will be illegal very, very soon.

Shouldn't there be some kind of agreement that this is something that is maybe not yet illegal,

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