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Laura Spinney on the Language That Conquered the World

The Gist

Mike Pesca

News, Politics, Arts, Daily News

4.43.6K Ratings

🗓️ 24 September 2025

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

Laura Spinney joins to discuss her new book Proto: How One Ancient Language Went Global, tracing the unlikely rise of Indo-European and why most of the world now speaks it. Also, a look at the Dallas ICE field office shooting in the broader context of political violence and how we categorize it. And in the Spiel: Jimmy Kimmel’s comeback monologue, Donald Trump’s cancellation calculations, and Sarah McLachlan’s rhymes—or lack thereof.

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0:00.0

It's Wednesday, September 24th, 2025 from Peachfish Productions.

0:07.6

It's the gist.

0:08.8

I'm Mike Peska.

0:10.2

A.P.

0:11.0

A gunman fired upon a Dallas immigration field office from a nearby roof Wednesday morning,

0:16.7

killing two detainees and critically wounding another,

0:19.4

before killing himself and what authorities

0:21.2

called an indiscriminate act on U.S. Immigrations and Customs Enforcement. So again, the act was on

0:29.2

the ICE agents, even though those dead were ICE detainees. This does comport with bullet casings

0:36.7

found engraved. Always the engraved bullet casings found engraved.

0:38.3

Always the engraved bullet casings.

0:40.1

If someone in your home is engraving a bullet casing, intervene, but the engraved

0:44.9

bullet casing, which seemed to have anti-ice rhetoric written on it, at least according to

0:52.3

the reports we have out now.

0:56.4

Now, many in the news, and I will quote again, the AP, are noting this fact. The attack is the latest public targeted killing in the

1:03.5

U.S. and comes two weeks after conservative leader Charlie Kirk was slain by a rifle-wielding

1:09.6

shooter on the roof. In other words, putting it in the context, and it's not crazy, I bet maybe your mind went to

1:15.1

this too, putting in the context of assassinations or targeted killings.

1:20.6

Now, there have been dozens and dozens of slayings of gun murders since Charlie Kirk was killed. There have been what we can classify

1:30.8

and what those who count them do classify as mass violence. There has been public violence.

1:37.4

There was an incident where four were killed in a North Carolina bodega. There were other

1:42.8

incidents where people, even strangers were killed in York, Pennsylvania,

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