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The Gist

Larry Charles: "I Finally Had to Fire the Kid"

The Gist

Peach Fish Productions

Daily News, News

4.53.7K Ratings

🗓️ 23 March 2026

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

Today on The Gist, legendary comedy director Larry Charles (Borat, Seinfeld, Curb Your Enthusiasm) joins Mike to discuss his new book, Comedy Samurai, breaking down the chaotic, high-stakes reality of shooting with a live bear, the mechanics of building a "wave of laughter," and why crafting compelling characters always beats worrying about likability. Plus, in the Spiel, Mike reflects on the passing of Robert Mueller and how the intense, almost messianic fixation on his investigation ultimately distorted both his role and the reality of his findings. Produced by Corey Wara Video and Social Media by Geoff Craig Do you have questions or comments, or just want to say hello? Email us at ⁠⁠⁠⁠thegist@mikepesca.com For full Pesca content and updates, check out our website at https://www.mikepesca.com/⁠ For ad-free content or to become a Pesca Plus subscriber, check out ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://subscribe.mikepesca.com/ For Mike's daily takes on Substack, subscribe to The Gist List https://mikepesca.substack.com/ Follow us on Social Media:⁠⁠⁠⁠ YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4_bh0wHgk2YfpKf4rg40_g⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram https://www.instagram.com/pescagist/ X https://x.com/pescami TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@pescagist To advertise on the show, contact ⁠⁠⁠⁠ad-sales@libsyn.com⁠⁠⁠⁠ or visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://advertising.libsyn.com/TheGist

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0:00.0

It's Monday, March 23rd, 26 from Peachfish Productions.

0:08.1

It's The Gist. I'm Mike Peska. The Gist, a podcast. You might be confused because maybe

0:13.1

you were watching CNN and you said to yourself, isn't this a cable news network? In fact,

0:18.3

isn't that what the letter CNN stand for? But no, they were trying to

0:21.3

be a podcast. They brought out the desk microphones as Anderson Cooper and guests talked into

0:26.8

them. They did the entire show from Jake Tapper's office, which is a really cool office. He has a lot

0:32.5

of good political memorabilia on the wall. One note, he has his jackets and pants hanging up pretty prominently.

0:39.5

You can might move them to the side, even though it's a podcast. Doesn't mean the sets of the podcast

0:44.1

have to be exactly what the office is all the time. Status, an online newsletter that could be

0:50.5

subtitled, what did Barry Weiss do today, looked at the CNN move to fake podcasting

0:56.8

or the gesture at podcasting, and they shat all over it. A person familiar with CNN's thinking,

1:03.2

told status, the podcast format has become a natural environment for Cooper. And with the network

1:09.0

and special programming since the Iran War started,

1:11.4

there was an opportunity to experiment with different deliveries for news. It was a person familiar

1:16.0

with CNN's thinking, like someone who watch CNN, someone who can't identify who gave that

1:22.3

anodyne quote saying, well, they did a podcast looking thing because I thought they wanted to do a podcast

1:27.5

looking thing.

1:28.8

Status goes on to give anonymity to people behind these other quotes.

1:33.4

Quote, I am not convinced that podcast microphones and behind the scene shots are enough

1:37.9

to move the needle.

1:39.0

One former television executive told status.

1:41.3

So not even someone currently in television.

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