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Here's your host, Emmy Award winning journalist Joel Waldman.

What's up, SCS Nation, and welcome to another episode of Surviving the Survivor.

The podcast that promises to bring you the very best guests in all of true crime.

This is continuing coverage of Hannah Kobayashi, the 30-year-old woman from Maui,

who landed at LAX from Maui back on November 8th and then promptly went missing a couple of days later.

There's been a tremendous amount of resources going into this.

And now we're getting new information.

If you saw the last show, which just ended, we had Detective Moses Castillo retired from the LAPD,

and he says that the LAPD is about to announce that Hanna Kobayashi left on her own,

of her own volition, and the chief is supposed to be speaking to KABC news out in Los Angeles, which we are

monitoring. But there is some breaking news. Of course, we are joined by Rob DeMico, who served 39 years,

both in the military and as an FBI special agent.

Law enforcement officials, Rob,

and this is now, according to ANBC in Los Angeles,

I don't know why I'm going out of focus here,

but according to KABC, KNBC, my apologies,

KNBC in Los Angeles, they are saying what the chief is supposed to be saying shortly that there is no evidence of foul play in her disappearance that she left of her own free will

and that she has crossed the border, that they say they have sightings of her

crossing the border into Mexico. What do you make of this, Rob DeMico?

Well, obviously, something happened with LAPD that they've confirmed that, you know,

she was voluntarily missing.

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