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In Our Time: Culture

Language and the Mind

In Our Time: Culture

BBC

History

4.6978 Ratings

🗓️ 11 February 1999

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Melvyn Bragg and guests discuss the history of our ideas about the formation of language. The psychologist George Miller worked out that in English there are potentially a hundred million trillion sentences of twenty words in length - that’s a hundred times the number of seconds since the birth of the universe. “Language”, as Chomsky put it, “makes infinite use of finite media”. “Language”, as Steven Pinker puts it, “comes so naturally to us that it’s easy to forget what a strange and miraculous gift it is”. “All over the world”, he writes, “members of our species spend a good part of their lives fashioning their breath into hisses and hums and squeaks and pops and are listening to others do the same”. Jean Jacques Rousseau once said that we differ from the animal kingdom in two main ways - the use of language and the prohibition of incest. Language and our ability to learn it has been held up traditionally as our species’ most remarkable achievement, marking us apart from the animals. But in the 20th century, our ideas about how language is formed are being radically challenged and altered. With Dr Jonathan Miller, medical doctor, performer, broadcaster, author and film and opera director; Steven Pinker, cognitive scientist, Professor of Psychology and Director of the Centre for Neuroscience, Massachusetts Institute of Technology, California.

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0:44.7

Hello Jean-Jacques Rousseau said that we differ from the animal kingdom in two main ways the use of language and the prohibition of incest

0:52.1

Language and our ability to learn it, has been held up traditionally as our species' most remarkable achievement, marking us apart from the animals.

1:00.0

But in the 20th century our ideas about how language is formed are being

1:04.0

radically challenged and altered. To discuss how and why, I'm joined by Dr Jonathan

1:08.9

Miller, Britain's most celebrated Polymath. He started a career in medicine

1:12.2

because of his interest in

1:13.2

language. Since then he's been a performer, a broadcaster, an author which is still as of

1:17.3

course a film and opera director. He's just curated his first art exhibition

1:21.2

Mirror Image at London's National Gallery.

1:24.0

Professor Stephen Pinker, one of the world's leading cognitive scientists and also one of its most

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