LaBeouf Takes Louisiana. Plus, Colbert, Crockett, and Talarico.

Higher Learning with Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay

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Society & Culture

4.7 • 11.5K Ratings

🗓️ 20 February 2026

⏱️ 173 minutes

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Summary

Van and Rachel remember the life of Jesse Jackson before addressing Shia LaBeouf’s Mardi Gras and the latest drama in the Texas Senate race. Then, a breakdown of "Afro-pessimism" before Cori Bush joins to discuss her campaign for Congress. And last but not least, thoughts on Tyler Perry’s most vulgar film. (0:00) Intro (9:17) Tyra Banks & America’s Next Top Model (20:28) The life of Jesse Jackson (31:34) Addressing Shia LaBeouf (42:15) Colbert, Crockett, and Talarico (1:14:33) Patrick Bet-David and interracial marriage (1:25:33) Afro-pessimism (1:50:42) Cori Bush joins the show (2:31:07) Voter ID (2:37:30) Thoughts on Tyler Perry’s ‘Joe’s College Road Trip’ and ‘Beauty in Black’ Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay Guests: Cori Bush Producers: Donnie Beacham Jr. and Jade Whaley Social Producer: Bernard Moore Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Yo, yo, yo, thought warriors. What is up? Howe Learning is on. It is I Van Lathen, Jr.
0:13.6	And it is me, Rachel Lynn Lindsay. I have a question for you, Rachel.
0:16.6	Uh-oh.
0:18.5	Where do you go when you want to play, but you don't know how to stay?
0:23.5	Where do you go when you want to move, but you don't know what to say?
0:28.8	Where do you go when you want to play?
0:32.8	It's Niggertown, USA.
0:34.6	Okay.
0:36.4	I thought I was going to get to answer the question.
0:40.3	I'm unfamiliar with that town.
0:42.3	I had a dream.
0:44.3	Was that in the dream?
0:46.3	The dream.
0:47.3	The song that was playing in the background of the dream when I did everything was that
0:51.3	song, Nigger Town, USA.
0:52.3	What were you doing?
0:53.3	What did it look like? Just me doing different things. No, what the town looked like. So you know what happened at the end of this dream? I was arrested for eating illegal foods. Nigger Town, USA. I was arrested. So at the end of the dream, the people, I went to dinner with the characters from the show Ozark.
1:12.6	Nice. Right. Marty Bird, the Brewer family. So I went to dinner with them. And when I was at dinner, it was like a Thanksgiving dinner. When I was at dinner, the cops busts in. The cops bused in and arrest everyone. They arrest them for doing what they were doing. Yeah, you were with criminals.
1:46.7	Right, and they arrest me for eating illegal foods. What was the food? Just Thanksgiving food. Like I was eating, they said that you're- Soul food. They said, yeah, exactly. They said, you're arrested for eating illegal food stuffs. And then later on, it turned out that Kenya Bears, I don't know why this was, is the one that tipped them off that I was there.
1:45.4	What you try to say? No, nothing. I mean, it was just weird. I think because last night I was like watching blackish. I was watching black as fuck. Black as fuck. See, look at it as. Kenya, bear's tip them off. And then I see Kenya. I go, like, so I break away from them. So this is what happens.
2:04.1	So I get arrested. Kenya bears tip them off and then I see Kenya, I go like, so I break away from them.
2:03.2	So this is what happens.
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