Welcome to the program today. My name is Mato Gonzalez here in studio with L.A. Marzuli. Welcome, L.A. It's always fun.

Great to be here. You know, it's been pretty exciting. You know, when you think about the times that we live in as it relates to prophetic themes. And it seems like every six months, something major happens, especially now. Really, what we want to talk about today is something

that is often ignored, I think, in the church. I mean, I was a pastor. I wouldn't say I ever gave

sermons on the topic of UFOs or unidentified aerial phenomenon, which is the latest phraseology.

But this is an important topic because these things have been coming out over the past few years.

And again, not by French people, but by the Pentagon.

One of the first things I'd like to do is let's talk about what you call the disclosure ladder.

What do you mean by that?

Well, it's the ladder didn't exist until 2017. And I'm watching Tucker Carlson that evening.

And no one said, hey, you know, this is what's going to happen. This is, there was no,

no one gave me a warning what I was about to look at. Sometimes, especially now, someone will get

wind of something and they'll send me an email. so I'll tune in. It wasn't the case.

So I'm watching Tucker Carlson, December 2017.

I'll go down a rabbit hole in our film, which we'll get to in just a little bit.

Paul McGuire, we interviewed McGuire in 2016, and I asked him point blank, when do you think

disclosure will happen?

And McGuire states on the record in 2016.

He's going, well, it's going to happen soon. We're going to see something, if not 2016,

certainly by the end of 2017. How did he know? He doesn't have a crystal ball. He's just looking

at the progression of what he sees. And so here it is December of 2017, Tucker Carlson's show, and all of a sudden

Tucker starts talking about UFOs. And his opening phrases went something like this. UFOs are

often thought of the stuff of tinfoil hats and conspiracy theorists, but maybe not so.

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