Hi, Gary Steerman. Good to talk to you again and particularly now because we have L.A. Marzuli

in the studio for a few minutes and we're going to be talking about some of his latest work.

L.A., welcome to Prophecy Watching.

Great to be here, Gary. Thanks.

You have produced a DVD and I'm holding it here, Fatim, a Miracle of the Sun or Harbinger of Deception?

I think the whole world really kind of knows about the miracle of Fatima, as commonly perceived.

Across the board, people around the world I think are familiar with it as a time when the Virgin Mary appeared to three

Portuguese children and gave them prophecies. They wrote the prophecies down and they became

the property of the Vatican. And there's been so much coverage in the news over the years

going all the way back to the 50s, 50s, 60s, 70s, everybody

said, what's the prophecy of Fatima? What is the prophecy of Fatima? And so that's the way

it's been presented to us. But with your research, we know something entirely different.

Well, here's something that most people don't understand. Okay, you've got the three

seers. First of all, Francisco's off the table because he couldn't hear what the apparition was saying. You've got Lucia, who's a 10-year-old girl at the time, and Jacinta, who's only seven years old. They're illiterate. They have no grid work in which to place anything that they're seeing except the stories that they've been told going a church and from

their family. Very young, illiterate children. After the last apparition of October 13th,

nothing happens. In other words, when you go back and you look at the records, there's not one

word about Russia or the conversion of Russia. It's not there in the

1917 records. It does not exist. Lucia is taken into a convent given a valid silence which

many of the nuns take. She's cloistered and 11 years after the event is when she begins to write the so-called

secrets. So people can do with that what they will. But in the 1917 records, the so-called

secrets of Fatima do not exist. They're not there. Now, I want to go back to the little character

that appeared to the three children and

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