Kyung Lah's dispatch from Maricopa County: 'Democracy will die by a thousand paper cuts, and this is a huge cut at it'

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🗓️ 28 May 2021

⏱️ 36 minutes

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CNN's Kyung Lah discusses her reporting on the bogus Arizona audit and the role of far-right outlet One America News in the saga. "This is not about right versus left," she says. "This is about truth and lies, and we cannot be afraid to call it a lie." Brian Stelter asks about local coverage of the GOP recount; the "pool" that takes turns observing; and the posture of local officials in Maricopa County. Lah also recounts her viral interview with the president of the Arizona state senate, who defended the credibility of conspiracy-laden OAN. Lah comments on being the proverbial canary in the coal mine, as Maricopa County is "the next page of the Big Lie playbook." To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	How should the reality-based news media be covering the alternative reality GOP when
0:10.2	a news story is so surreal?
0:14.1	How should journalists call it out and uncover what's really going on?
0:19.3	Those are some of the questions for this week's Reliable Sources podcast.
0:23.2	So let's cue the music.
0:25.7	I'm Brian Steltzer and this weekly podcast edition of Reliable Sources is our chance to
0:30.4	go more in-depth talking about how the news gets made or sometimes the opposite of news.
0:38.5	Imagine election fraud is still the topic of the day sometimes every day for some right-wing
0:44.0	media outlets, some six months after the results were certified.
0:48.8	You've probably heard about what's going on in Arizona where there's this sham audit going
0:53.0	on claiming to be recounting votes looking for evidence of fraud.
0:59.3	It led to a viral moment between CNN's young law and Arizona State Senator Karen Fan
1:05.6	earlier this week.
1:07.9	Fan was talking about the process, trying to defend it sort of, and she said something
1:12.7	to the young law that really stood out.
1:15.5	Here is that moment.
1:17.2	First of all, when we talk about transparency, from day one, the entire process has been
1:22.0	live streaming.
1:23.7	So anybody on OAN with cameras controlled by OAN?
1:27.8	Are you saying that OAN is not a credible news source?
1:33.1	Are you saying that?
1:34.1	Okay.
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