All right, Kathy's, we are back with another episode of Group Chat's a special episode.

We have, you know, some folks in and out today.

So it's going to be me and my guy here, Michael Chernow.

Welcome to the pod.

You know, I was on your Instagram earlier today.

And before we kind of talk about your background and your business, I saw a lot of

clips around parenting. Oh, yes. And, you know, it's really interesting. I just got back from a family

vacation. And a family vacation is an incredible time to see how others parent.

Because you're out at a hotel.

There's a lot of kids, especially this time of year, because everyone's like wrapping up summer break.

And it's fascinating that like basically everyone parents differently.

You can't control how other people parent their children.

And then your kids are out in the wild trying to navigate it. And like a swimming pool at a hotel is really an incredible test of parenting.

Oh, yes.

So like some kids are just bombing balls everywhere, hitting everyone.

Some kids are respectfully sitting in a corner.

Some kids, you know, are just talking crazy and doing whatever.

It's like the Wild West.

There could be an incredible parenting lesson on

parenting during vacations. By the way, I think you have to add a caveat there to like what

pool you're at and where, right? Like what hotel you're talking about? And I mean, i don't know if there'd be that much variation

but you know what you're right there is a huge variation okay because i've i've you know we've

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