Kouri Richins Trial: Carmen Lauber — Day Two of Fiery Cross Part 1
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🗓️ 27 February 2026
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Summary
Carmen Lauber, Former Richins Housekeeper, continues to be cross-examined in the Kouri Richins trial.
Kouri Richins stands accused of poisoning her husband Eric Richins with a lethal dose of fentanyl in March 2022—allegedly to collect on a $1.9 million life insurance policy she secretly increased just weeks before his death. What prosecutors describe as a calculated murder-for-profit scheme, the defense calls a tragic accident involving a man who, they claim, had a hidden drug problem.
This is gavel-to-gavel coverage of one of the most closely watched trials in Utah history. A children's book author. A grieving widow who wrote about "heaven" for kids while allegedly researching untraceable poisons. A husband who may have been killed in his own bed.
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| 0:00.0 | You're listening to continuing coverage from the trial of Corey Richards, from the Hidden Killers podcast and true crime today. |
| 0:08.4 | Now, back to the courtroom. |
| 0:11.5 | All right, have a seat. Thank you. |
| 0:15.7 | Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for your patience. |
| 0:17.7 | We'll continue with additional questioning of Ms. Lauber. |
| 0:22.0 | Ms. Lauber, please remember you are still under oath. |
| 0:25.7 | Ms. Lewis. |
| 0:27.1 | Good morning. |
| 0:28.0 | Morning. |
| 0:30.1 | I want to move on to the next interview, which took place on May 4th, 2023. So I don't know if in case we need the binder. Do you want me to |
| 0:42.3 | put you in the right spot or can you find it? |
| 0:45.3 | Yes. |
| 0:47.3 | Yeah, I think that's it. And it's stated? |
| 0:51.3 | Yeah. |
| 0:52.3 | Yes. All right. and it stated yeah for yes all right okay so you've stated that you've stated that you |
| 1:06.1 | worked for Cory Richens for a long time prior to these events? |
| 1:11.6 | I worked for her aunt. |
| 1:13.6 | You worked for her aunt, but working through her aunt, she was one of your clients. |
| 1:19.6 | You cleaned for Ms. Richens and worked for her aunt's clients, yes. |
| 1:23.6 | Okay. |
| 1:24.6 | And you had a lot of communications with Corey over the years about cleaning. |
| 1:29.3 | Yeah. And you were friendly with each other. Fair. Um, so I want to ask you, so there were, sorry, strike that. You mostly communicated by way of text, right? |
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