Kouri Richins: The Full Psychology of a Marriage Built on Control
Hidden Killers With Tony Brueski | True Crime News & Commentary
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🗓️ 19 March 2026
⏱️ 64 minutes
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Summary
The Kouri Richins case has been covered from every legal angle. This is the psychological one — and it's the angle that matters most to anyone who recognizes this story from the inside.
Psychotherapist Shavaun Scott joins Tony Brueski and Robin Dreeke for a wide-ranging conversation that uses the Kouri Richins case as a framework to examine the complete arc of a relationship with someone operating with narcissistic or borderline personality traits. From the first phase — the love bombing, the targeting, the performance that makes everything feel like fate — through the sustained invisible damage of coercive control, trauma bonding, and gaslighting — to the most dangerous moment of all: the exit.
Prosecutors allege that as Eric Richins began quietly moving toward freedom, things escalated toward something fatal. Scott explains why that pattern is so consistent in these relationships, what it looks like in someone calculating rather than explosive, and what anyone in this situation needs to know before they make a move.
This is the Hidden Killers conversation that goes beyond the case.
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| 0:00.0 | This is Hidden Killers Live with Tony Brewski and Robin Green. |
| 0:08.6 | We have a lot to break down today as we do a little review of the case of Corey Richards. |
| 0:14.7 | We're going to talk all about the psychological end of the whole case. From Corey to Eric, how it all played out, |
| 0:24.4 | why it all worked the way it did. |
| 0:27.5 | But we're going to begin today with a video, because I found it's rather interesting to look back on this case |
| 0:35.1 | at certain aspects now that the prism has aligned itself |
| 0:39.1 | to show that she is in fact guilty, that a jury of her peers found that she was lying her ass off |
| 0:45.2 | the entire time, including to Good Day, Utah, or whatever the hell the program was, |
| 0:51.8 | where Corey goes on, and we've all heard about it, we've all seen clips of this where |
| 0:55.6 | Corey is promoting her children's book, Are You With Me? |
| 1:00.5 | Seeing it from this perspective, knowing that all of it was a lie, is really interesting. |
| 1:08.3 | So I want to bring in Robin Drake, our co-host, |
| 1:12.1 | a retired FBI special agency for the Counterintelligence Behavioral Analysis Program, |
| 1:16.3 | and Chavon Scott, psychotherapist and author. |
| 1:19.4 | Author of this book right here. |
| 1:21.2 | It's Nightbird, available wherever books are sold. |
| 1:24.9 | And break down, and then we're going to play the video, and we're going to kind of work our way through it, stop. |
| 1:32.0 | Because there's just a lot of interesting observations that I know I was making, and I'd love to get your guys's opinions on what we are seeing as we go through this video. |
| 1:43.9 | And as we watch this, you guys in the comments |
| 1:45.6 | section, please do weigh in with your thoughts on Substack and YouTube. The links are in the |
| 1:52.1 | descriptions. And we'll try and get through your comments and your questions as we work through |
| 1:56.1 | this. So let's begin with this, Todd. And let's just, let's just go right into into the video and then we'll stop here at a certain point. |
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