Kouri Richins: The Book Interview — Analyzed by a Psychotherapist and an FBI Behavioral Expert
Hidden Killers With Tony Brueski | True Crime News & Commentary
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🗓️ 19 March 2026
⏱️ 22 minutes
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Summary
A jury has convicted Kouri Richins of murdering her husband Eric. Before the arrest, before the trial, she sat down on camera to promote a children's grief book she didn't write — about the man prosecutors say she poisoned.
Tony Brueski brings in psychotherapist Shavaun Scott and retired FBI Behavioral Analysis Chief Robin Dreeke to do what nobody did at the time: analyze that interview with the full picture in front of them. Shavaun Scott examines the psychological architecture of what Kouri was doing — how someone manages public perception in the aftermath of a crime, what performed grief looks like versus real grief, and what her specific choices in that interview reveal about her psychological state and operating patterns. Robin Dreeke reads the behavioral record — the language, the delivery, the tells that a trained analyst sees when someone is constructing a story rather than telling the truth.
The book was ghostwritten. The grief was performed. The interview was a calculated move. Here's what it actually looked like to the people trained to see it.
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| 0:00.0 | This is Hidden Killers Live with Tony Brewski and Robin Green. |
| 0:08.6 | We have a lot to break down today as we do a little review of the case of Corey Richards. |
| 0:14.7 | We're going to talk all about the psychological end of the whole case. From Corey to Eric, how it all played out, |
| 0:24.4 | why it all worked the way it did. |
| 0:27.5 | But we're going to begin today with a video, because I found it's rather interesting to look back on this case |
| 0:35.1 | at certain aspects now that the prism has aligned itself |
| 0:39.1 | to show that she is in fact guilty, that a jury of her peers found that she was lying her ass off the entire time, |
| 0:46.7 | including to Good Day, Utah, or whatever the hell the program was, |
| 0:51.8 | where Corey goes on, and we've all heard about it, we've all seen clips of this where |
| 0:55.6 | Corey is promoting her children's book, Are You With Me? |
| 1:00.5 | Seeing it from this perspective, knowing that all of it was a lie, is really interesting. |
| 1:08.3 | So I want to bring in Robin Drake, our co-host, |
| 1:12.1 | a retired FBI special agency for the Counterintelligence Behavioral Analysis Program, |
| 1:16.3 | and Chavon Scott, psychotherapist and author. |
| 1:19.4 | Author of this book right here. |
| 1:21.2 | It's Nightbird, available wherever books are sold. |
| 1:24.9 | And break down, and then we're going to play the the video and we're going to kind of work our way |
| 1:30.8 | through it, stop, because there's just a lot of interesting observations that I know I was |
| 1:35.7 | making and I'd love to get your guys's opinions on what we are seeing as we go through |
| 1:42.8 | this video. |
| 1:43.9 | And as we watch this, you guys in the comments |
| 1:45.6 | section, please do weigh in with your thoughts on Substack and YouTube. The links are in the |
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