Kouri Richins Murder Trial: The Affair Texts, the Uinta Mountains Question, and the Secret Trust Eric Built to Protect His Kids
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Tony Brueski
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🗓️ 5 March 2026
⏱️ 28 minutes
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Summary
Day eight of the Kouri Richins murder trial in Park City, Utah delivered the most emotionally charged testimony of the case so far — and it came not from a forensic expert or a law enforcement officer, but from the man Kouri Richins was in love with while her husband was still alive.
Robert Josh Grossman took the stand on the four-year anniversary of Eric Richins' death. He had moved to Utah for Kouri. She had bought him two trucks, gifted him a birthday trip to Saint Martin, and paid him $25,000 after Eric died. Prosecutors walked the jury through years of text messages — ending with Kouri's words just days before Eric's death: "If he could just go away and you could just be here. Life would be so perfect."
Grossman broke down reading them. When the judge called a recess and asked if he needed to stretch his legs, Grossman said: "It ain't the legs."
Prosecutors also used the day to show the jury who Eric Richins actually was behind closed doors — a man who had quietly consulted a divorce attorney in October 2020, built a trust naming his sister as trustee over $7.6 million in assets, and told his estate attorney that Kouri had used his power of attorney to take $250,000 of his money. He didn't revoke it. He said she was the mother of his children.
About two weeks after Eric's death, Kouri and Grossman drove to the Uinta Mountains. During that drive, according to Grossman, Kouri asked him what it feels like to kill someone. At the time, he thought nothing of it. Looking back, everything looked different.
The defense moved for a mistrial over newly disclosed information about Carmen Lauber. Kouri Richins has pleaded not guilty and is presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.
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| 0:00.0 | This is Hidden Killers with Tony Brukes. |
| 0:03.3 | Here now, Tony Brewski. |
| 0:07.3 | If he could just go away and you could be here, |
| 0:13.4 | life would be so perfect. |
| 0:17.6 | Corey Richens typed those words to her boyfriend. |
| 0:40.9 | While her husband was still alive and on the four-year anniversary of the morning of Eric Richens being found no longer breathing in his own bed, a jury in Park City, Utah, sat in a courtroom and heard that message read aloud. |
| 0:51.7 | Corey Richens, of course, if you've been playing along at home, you know she has pled not guilty to the murder of her husband. |
| 0:59.8 | She, of course, maintains her innocence under the law, but the prosecution spent that day during something the forensic accountants and cell tower maps couldn't quite do. |
| 1:04.9 | They made it human. |
| 1:06.9 | They put a man on the stand who loved her, who read her words in front of strangers who broke |
| 1:13.9 | down more than once, and who told the jury that when Corey asked him what it felt like to kill |
| 1:19.7 | someone, he didn't really think anything of it. |
| 1:27.9 | We'll get there. |
| 1:29.5 | First, you need to understand who Robert Josh Grossman is, because his testimony only lands if you |
| 1:38.5 | actually know what this relationship actually was. |
| 1:42.0 | So let's get into it, shall we? |
| 1:49.1 | There was a lot of reading today. A lot of dead air, |
| 1:57.5 | if you're just listening to the show, if you will. I don't know why they didn't read half of these out loud. I don't know if it's a rule. I think it's something to do with that, but whatever. A lot of text messages displayed up on the screen. |
| 2:06.1 | And a lot of finding out the |
| 2:08.3 | deep caveats and crevices of this relationship. |
| 2:15.7 | Just, yeah. When you look at it and you go, oh, God. |
| 2:24.8 | As we go through the day's events, some of those texts and then what was revealed, |
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