This is Hidden Killers Live with Tony Brewski and Robin Drey.

The prosecution has put nearly 40 witnesses on the stand, and they will be done, almost done.

The defense hasn't shown their hand yet in the trial of Corey Richens.

Two mistrial motions already filed. A jury sitting

on a mountain of circumstantial evidence with no video, no confession, and no one who actually

watched it happen. This is where the case gets decided, not in the evidence, but in how all of it

lands. Joining Robin Drake, retired FBI special agency for the counterintelligence behavioral analysis program and myself is Bob Mata, defense attorney, host of the podcast Defense Diaries to get into the land.

Oh, Corey Richens, and there's a lot to get into today. I'm going to pick up where a lot of it left off as of our recording the night

before. The private investigator on the stand and the defense going down a road. In this first

segment, I want to focus on the defense and where they've been going, but they took us down a path that I certainly did not have on my bingo card for this case.

Did anyone have that the defense of Corey Richards is going to try and insinuate that Eric was having an illicit affair with his male friend in this trial.

I didn't think it was going to go there.

I was like, what?

And then clearly, clearly, there was texts amongst friends,

and they're screwing around and they're saying stupid things to each other

the way people do.

Well, the defense of Corey Richards sees it very differently. Let's start there, Bob. Did you have this on your

bingo card for the trial of Corey Richens? I did not. I did not have it on my thing. I didn't have

Todd Gabler on my bingo card in terms of what he ended up being, which I thought was an absolutely fascinating witness.

You know, and he's interesting because he's typically, he's a PI.

Yeah.

And Robin will tell you, I mean, typically government uses cops.

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