It has to be some common sense.

It has to be some common sense.

Yes, sir. They have the car stopped intended to branch, Michaeliser.

We still don't know who pulled the trigger. Hello everyone and welcome to police off the Cuff, Real Crime Stories.

I'm your host, retired NYPD Sergeant Bill Cannon, 27-year veteran of the NYPD.

We have a pretty interesting case today.

We're actually not going to focus on the Brian Coburger case today in the Idaho quadruple of Ethan Chapin, Madison Mogan, Kaylee Gonsolvis,

and Zena Kurnodal. We're going to focus on the case of Utah mother, Corey Richens.

This case is sort of fascinating because I think it it lets people know. So many people think they can outfox

law enforcement and that they can they can lie to anyone and get away with it. Maybe because

they've been doing it their whole life, they feel like they can lie and tell a lie and get over

on that lie.

But realizing when they're lying to professionals,

it's a little bit different than lying to, say, your husband or your loved one,

or your boss or your friend.

It's a whole lot different.

Now, this is the case, of course, Corey Richens.

You see, they had her and her husband, Eric, had a beautiful family.

That's Eric there with Corey, and they had three sons.

And last year in March, her husband, Eric, died suddenly.

And after that, she did something that was a little bizarre.

She wrote a children's book that she said she hoped would help her three boys process the loss and comforted by the knowledge that their father would always be with them.

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