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The low alcohol drink sector has been booming in the last few years, and in this episode

we really zoom in and focus on the drink Kambuocher. If you've never tried it before, maybe have a go,

but you might want to after listening to this program. So have you got a brew on the go right now?

Yeah, okay, cool.

These are right here. So they're all open air. So how long long has this been here?

This is here for a week?

Just a week.

Goodness.

You can see the scovey growing on the surface of the liquid, so that's called a pelical.

It's made out cellulose and that's produced by the bacteria during the course of the fermentation.

So a lot of people think it looks like a mushroom or a jellyfish and

most people would brew with this. They transfer this from batch to batch but you can just

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