Koko The Gorilla
You're Wrong About
Sarah Marshall
4.6 • 23K Ratings
🗓️ 6 July 2020
⏱️ 80 minutes
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Summary
“It’s interesting that we became enthusiastic about ASL in the process of teaching it to a population that couldn’t benefit from it.”
Mike tells Sarah about a very special ape and the very problematic humans around her. Digressions include video dating, "Biography" and the terrible terrible inventor of the telephone. We start with a SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT about the future of the show. Both co-hosts understand the difference between chimps, monkeys and apes but occasionally misspeak.
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Links!
- Marcus Perlman, the researcher Mike interviewed!
- "Human and Animal Cognition: Continuity and Discontinuity"
- "In Memorium: Koko, A Remarkable Gorilla"
- "What Do Talking Apes Really Tell Us?"
- “Monkey Business”
- “Talk to the Animals,” the 1980 Omni article
- “Animal Bodies, Human Minds: Ape, Dolphin, and Parrot Language Skills”
- 1979 New York Magazine article on Herb Terrace
- “The Last Distinction?”
- “The Sad Twilight of Koko The Gorilla and Her 'Mother'”
- “Why Koko Can’t Talk”
- “The Other Side of Silence: Sign Language and the Deaf Community in America”
- “The Education of Koko”
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Isn't it terrible that the name Donald is like eight-olf now like you hear it and you're just like, |
| 0:14.1 | Are you ready? Do you want to get going? Yeah. |
| 0:15.9 | Ooh, welcome to your wrong about the show where... |
| 0:20.4 | Ooh, no. Although, ooh, no, it's actually a pretty good tagline. |
| 0:26.3 | That's actually pretty apt for a lot of our episodes. |
| 0:28.2 | Yeah, let's go with that. Welcome to your wrong about the show where... |
| 0:31.2 | Ooh, no. |
| 0:34.6 | Yeah, I stand by it. I'm Michael Hobbs. I'm a reporter for The Hovering and Post. |
| 0:38.8 | I'm Sarah Marshall. I'm working on a book about the Satanic Panic. |
| 0:41.7 | And if you want to support the show, we are on patreon at patreon.com slash |
| 0:45.6 | you wrong about. And speaking of which, we have a little announcement to make. |
| 0:50.5 | We are undertaking the radical step of offering Patreon rewards for the first time ever. |
| 0:58.2 | We're actually going to give people stuff. It's finally the answer when you sign up for a Patreon |
| 1:02.7 | is something other than you get nothing. Very excited. We've had Patreon for 15 months and we're |
| 1:09.9 | finally organized enough to be able to offer something to the people who aren't so kindly helping us |
| 1:17.5 | to make this show. So one of the things we have learned from meeting a lot of you folks through |
| 1:22.5 | social media is that we get a lot of questions and people want to know how we research the show |
| 1:27.3 | and people want to know if things were cut out of the episodes and they want to ask |
| 1:30.7 | follow up questions of like what do you think about this new piece of information or what do you |
| 1:35.4 | think of the historic episode of the Red shoe Diaries with Pala Barbieri in it? |
| 1:40.8 | Yes. Something people ask me literally every day just kidding, not even once, but some day |
| 1:46.7 | somebody will. And we thought it would be fun to like once a month go through those questions and |
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