Everything was done to try to learn how to become a better basketball player.

Everything. Everything.

And so when you have that point of view, then literally the world becomes your library

to help you to become better at your craft.

So because you know what you want, the world's given you exactly the information.

100% because you know what you're looking for. So many guys tell stories about your work ethic.

What was really your work ethic like and for how long did you stay disciplined?

Well, I mean, every day, I mean, since, you know, for 20 years.

It was an everyday process and trying to figure out strengths and weaknesses.

For example, jumping ability.

My vertical was a 40, it wasn't a 46 or a 45.

My hands are big but they're not massive, right?

So you got to figure out ways to strengthen them.

So your hands are strong enough to be able to palm a ball and do the things that you need

to do.

Quickness, I was quick, but not insanely quick.

I was fast, but not ridiculously fast.

So I had to rely on skill a lot more.

I had to rely on angles a lot more.

I had to study the game a lot more.

But I enjoyed it though.

So like from the time I was, I can remember when I started

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