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Hey everybody. I'm honored today to be joined by the executive director for the American Civil Liberties Union for the District of Columbia. Monica Hopkins. Monica, welcome.

Thank you so much for having me.

I'm really excited to talk to you.

There's so many, like I could talk to you for 10 hours probably, but I want to speak to you today because it seems as though our last best guardrails left in place for democracy are the courts, right?

And we're going to need to support organizations like the

ACLU. So we all can do the work of slowing down some of the incoming Trump administration's

policies because there'll be no more adults in the room in this particular administration.

So let's start with a little bit about you. How long have you been with the ACLU in the District of Columbia?

Yeah. So I have been with the District of Columbia, ACLU, for 10 years. And prior to that, I ran the

ACLU of Idaho for about six years. So I just celebrated 16 years with the ACLU.

Oh my gosh. You were the executive director there. And my understanding is that you did a lot of work to

protect LGBTQIA plus rights and immigrants rights. And so I think that's really going to set you up for success.

It's kind of a different mindset, but definitely one I'm used to.

Yeah. And so let's talk a little bit about what we're going to face because recently I had

Andrea Pittser on the show and she's like, here's what we can do, right? We can't stop him from being sworn in on the 20th, but we know it's coming.

And we really have to get together and hold up, prop up and support these organizations like

the ACLU, particularly in D.C. where a lot of these lawsuits are going to happen to kind of

gum up the works, kind of slow things down,

try to use Trump's tactic of sue and delay in order to sue and delay bad things from happening

in this particular administration.

And so let's start out with talking a little bit about

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