Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen to a summer edition,

off-season edition of the Ringer NBA show.

I'm your host, Big Was, A.k.a. Wazzy Lambrey, and I'm joined by my brother, my partner, all the way from New York City. Fred Katz of The Athletic. What's going on, brother? Thank you for having me, man. I appreciate it. Man, like, you know, they told me I could book a guest, and I'm like, what are the off-season stories that fascinate me?

And I, you know, not to be a New York City homer, I immediately thought about the Knicks and their off-season.

And, you know, I think they did a great job in free agency.

We can get to that.

But the coaching search became a story because it was unlike any coaching search I've ever seen before.

For like, have you ever seen something like this, Fred?

Like, you've been doing this for a minute.

It was, it was strange it was it was strange i mean look i'll i'll be honest i wasn't completely shocked when they fired tips

i was surprised but it's not like it came out of nowhere because i think heading into the playoffs I think everybody around

there kind of had the impression like if they lose to Detroit in the first round coaching staffs

going to be out because what we kind of forget when we talk about the Knicks having this

great run legitimately great run to the eastern conference finals and I think what any sane

viewer would call a very successful season, it's a

very positive step. Super successful season. 100%. Like making the conference finals for the first time

in 25 years, that's a great accomplishment with a roster that you can keep together for the long

haul and a lot of really good players who fit well together. That's a, that's a great, that's a great end of the season.

And that's a great accomplishment.

But what we kind of forget is that the regular season was, I don't want to call it a mess,

because it wasn't a mess.

They won 51 games.

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