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The Documentary Podcast

Kissinger

The Documentary Podcast

BBC

Society & Culture, Documentary

4.32.7K Ratings

🗓️ 30 November 2023

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

Few people can claim as much influence over the shape of the modern world as Henry Kissinger. The former US Secretary of State and Nobel Peace laureate is loved, loathed and listened to - for the decisions he took, the attitude he espoused and for his knowledge and analysis of world affairs. In 2022, James Naughtie travelled to Kissinger's home to discuss six great leaders and the lessons they taught, as Kissinger reflected on his own role in creating the modern world.

this programe was first published in 2022.

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to the documentary from the BBC World Service.

0:05.0

Following the death of the former US Secretary of State Henry Kissinger,

0:09.0

another chance now to hear Kissinger, which was released in 2022.

0:13.7

You're listening to Kissinger's century here on BBC World Service.

0:20.8

In his hundreds year Henry Kissinger is still thinking and writing

0:25.5

about the state of the world. No one alive has spent longer as a diplomatic go-between and

0:30.9

fixer, before he was the engineer of Richard Nixon's foreign policy in the White House, and ever since.

0:37.0

The refugee from Nazi Germany became a Harvard academic, then the negotiator in Vietnam and the Middle East with China and Russia, whose

0:46.4

interpretation of Rial Politique brought him fame and power and a horde of fierce critics. This is James Nachty, and I went to Kissinger's home in New England

0:56.8

to talk about his new book, Leadership and his life. There was only one way to begin.

1:07.2

In a disordered world, how would he describe the edge we're living in?

1:14.0

It's an age of simultaneous global transition. Apeable in some parts, evolution in others,

1:20.0

but none of the institutions very stable and all of them in the process

1:30.0

international and many national moving towards a yet unachieved destination.

1:38.0

That must mean that it is not just because of the Fisher that runs through Ukraine,

1:45.0

but for other reasons too, a dangerous time.

1:49.0

Yes, because even saying in the Ukraine different participants evaluate the importance

1:59.7

of specific decisions unequally. So unevenness is not only in the way the issues appear, but in the evolution that they generate.

2:16.0

This brings us to the question of leadership about which you've been thinking for, of course, many decades.

2:22.0

And one of your great themes has always been that our

2:26.0

history as individuals and as nations lives with us and those memories shape

2:32.2

us and in a way should shape us.

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