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The Bunker – News without the nonsense

King of Cruelty – How Trump wins by humiliating his enemies

The Bunker – News without the nonsense

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Society & Culture, Government, News, Politics

4.61K Ratings

🗓️ 12 August 2025

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

Politics has always been brutal but in the Trump era, it’s turned downright ugly. From Ted Cruz to Elon Musk, Donald Trump doesn’t just defeat opponents; he aims to degrade them. Public insults, jeers, the whip of a hostile crowd and, most of all, humiliation. Why does this gut-level tactic work so well for the leader of the free world? Today in The Bunker, Jacob Jarvis sits down with Toby Buckle, host of the Political Philosophy Podcast, joins us to unpack the politics of humiliation. • We are sponsored by Indeed. Go to https://indeed.com/bunker for £100 sponsored credit.   www.patreon.com/bunkercast  Follow us on BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/bunkerpod.bsky.social  Advertisers! Want to reach smart, engaged, influential people with money to spend? (Yes, they do exist). Some 3.5 MILLION people download and watch our podcasts every month – and they love our shows. Why not get YOUR brand in front of our influential listeners with podcast advertising? Contact ads@podmasters.co.uk to find out more Written and presented by Jacob Jarvis. Producer: Liam Tait. Audio editor: Robin Leeburn. Managing editor: Jacob Jarvis. Music by Kenny Dickinson. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. THE BUNKER is a Podmasters Production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

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1:41.1

Hello and welcome to The Bunker, your daily dose of news without the nonsense. I'm Jacob Jarvis.

1:51.3

In recent years, politics appears to have gotten far more ugly. Donald Trump, for example,

1:56.4

is ruthless in how he treats his enemies and even so-called allies should they cross him.

2:00.9

He's prepared to weaken people, insult them, turn crowds upon them, and more.

2:04.5

But worst of all, perhaps, he is prepared to humiliate them.

2:07.8

From Ted Cruz and the 2016 primaries through to more recently Elon Musk,

2:12.3

he wants to diminish his adversaries, not just beat them in an argument.

2:16.6

So why does humiliation work for Trump and why

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