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Next Up with Mark Halperin

Kimmel Suspended as Media Power Shifts, DHS Sec. Noem, and the Golden Age of Comedy, w/ Noam Dworman

Next Up with Mark Halperin

MK Media

News, Daily News, Politics

4.61.2K Ratings

🗓️ 18 September 2025

⏱️ 74 minutes

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Summary

Mark Halperin opens today’s episode with his reported monologue featuring new information on Jimmy Kimmel’s suspension by ABC and what it reveals about shifting corporate power structures, market pressure, and free speech in modern media. He dissects the reactions from the White House to prominent Democrats, many of whom are outraged by Kimmel’s suspension and jolted by the realization that mainstream media is no longer reliably on their side. Mark examines how changing audience demographics, political influence, and corporate risk management are reshaping television and entertainment, and why the Kimmel controversy shows how corporate power and cultural forces are increasingly shaping each other. Then, Mark sits down with Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem for a wide-ranging conversation on border security, public safety, and the lasting mission of Charlie Kirk — and how she plans to honor his legacy. Secretary Noem outlines the priorities DHS is pursuing and explains why enforcing the law, ensuring real consequences, and encouraging voluntary compliance are critical to protecting American communities. Plus, Secretary Noem joins Mark for a quick round of a favorite game: Rapid-Fire Word Association – Trump Cabinet Edition. After that, Mark is joined by Noam Dworman, owner of the fabled Manhattan venue the Comedy Cellar, to unpack how free speech, corporate pressure, and political influence collide in today’s entertainment landscape – and what that means for comedy. They discuss the behind-the-scenes forces that led to Kimmel being sidelined by ABC, explore how comics inspire one another while navigating the fraught boundaries of what’s considered acceptable, and debate whether we’re living in a new golden age of comedy. Plus, don’t miss Mark Halperin’s “Last Up” at the end of the show: What’s in a name? Chapter: For free and unbiased Medicare help, dial 262-454-0503 or go to https://askchapter.org/mark Disclaimer: Chapter and its affiliates are not connected with or endorsed by any government entity or the federal Medicare program. Chapter Advisory, LLC represents Medicare Advantage HMO, PPO, and PFFS organizations and standalone prescription drug plans that have a Medicare contract. Enrollment depends on the plan’s contract renewal. While we have a database of every Medicare plan nationwide and can help you to search among all plans, we have contracts with many but not all plans. As a result, we do not offer every plan available in your area. Currently we represent 50 organizations which offer 18,160 products nationwide. We search and recommend all plans, even those we don't directly offer. You can contact a licensed Chapter agent to find out the number of products available in your specific area. Please contact Medicare.gov, 1-800-Medicare, or your local State Health Insurance Program (SHIP) to get information on all your options. Delta Rescue: Visit https://DeltaRescue.org to learn more

Transcript

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0:00.0

It's Thursday. We're back, Nexters. Thank you for returning, whether you're listening to us, watching us, showing up in your inbox. It's Thursday. Another episode of this program next up. I am Mark Kalprin, editor-in-chief of the live interactive video platform two-way and your host here to bring you my exclusive reporting and analysis of everything that's

0:22.0

going on that matters most and to, again, try to clue you in and what's going to happen next.

0:27.4

With us today, next up after my monologue, Christy Noam.

0:31.4

She's the Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security, former South Dakota governor.

0:35.6

We're going to talk about how America thinks about security

0:38.6

and safety at a time in the wake of the execution, the assassination of Charlie Kirk. And then

0:47.0

it's an all-nome episode, from Christie Nome to Nome Dwarman, my friend who owns the comedy

0:52.5

seller, a staunch thinker and First Amendment advocate.

0:56.0

We're going to talk about what's going on with First Amendment rights and whether there is a

1:01.6

threat to liberty in America.

1:03.1

Now, Noam is the owner of the comedy seller and also he hosts his own program called Live

1:07.9

from the Table.

1:08.7

So a pair of Gnomes coming up in just a moment.

1:11.4

But first, my reported monologue worked on this late last night and overnight in the wake of the firing, or not firing, the suspension by Disney and ABC of Jimmy Kimmel.

1:23.1

Kimmel made remarks.

1:24.6

You all probably have heard them by now, on his program on Monday night,

1:29.9

suggesting that the killer of Charlie Kirk was MAGA and that MAGA was trying to deny the

1:37.6

fact that he was part of MAGA. It was a silly thing to say at best, and it offended some people,

1:43.3

and it offended the head of the FCC,

1:49.0

very aggressive man, whose place in the world in this administration is really, as I said,

1:57.0

aggressive. He does not believe that liberal media, particularly those that have federal

2:02.1

licenses like ABC, should be able to be biased. And he's been pretty clear about that. Since the

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