Welcome to Amped Up with Proud Resister. This is Progressive Activist Ryan Knight.

And I'm Chris LaVoy of the Stephanie Miller show.

And our guest today is Kimberly Johnson. She is the host of the Start Me Up podcast and the author of Payton's Choice and the Virgin

Diaries.

Kimberly, welcome to Amped Up.

Well, thank you for having me.

Yeah, you know, I had deemed, had direct message you earlier in the week right after Kamala had dropped out of the race.

Yes. And I wanted to have you on because I follow you and I'm a fan of yours and you have

have such a great perspective you know on the issues but definitely on the

women candidates because look I I never disagree with Dan Rather.

Dan Rather is like my go-to man.

But right after Kamala dropped out of the race,

he tweeted something like, you know,

Comitable Rebound, but she needs to look deep within herself

for how it all fell apart.

And it got me thinking about the impossible standards that women are held to when running for

higher office.

You know, and I think it's time for the media to look within itself and how it holds female candidates like

Harris and Warren to a much higher standard than male candidates like

Biden and Buda Judge. What are your your thoughts I completely agree with you and you know I

had seen your tweet which inspired me to tweet him and it was you know kind of

what you just said it's it's not fair that especially today I'm really in a mood because

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