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Buzz on the hot goss from Hollywood with Abby.

It's the Bert Show's entertainment bus.

I feel like I'm about to really outrage some mothers here because being a mom is difficult.

I don't want to sign up for that.

I've seen what I've needed to see.

I was raised by a mother.

It doesn't seem easy.

So I'm a tap out of this one. But if I was going to have children, I would

want to do it the Kim Kardashian route, where you can just pay people to be a parent for you.

And you can just exist in that world where you get to be the cool parent and somebody else can

do all the hard work. But Kim Kardashian actually opened up on a podcast called What in the Winkler, which is exactly what it sounds like. It is hosted by Henry Winkler's

wife and daughter. And I guess his daughter is really close friends with Kim Kardashian. So she came on

the podcast. That is odd. This is so random. I love it. It's just not odd. It's very random.

I'm glad you said that because I'm like, is that judgmental for me to be like, what a random pairing? It's just random. So random. And the fact that they have a podcast too.

And anyway, so she went on the podcast to talk about what it's like to raise her four kids.

And she says, you know, even though I have resources and help, I still basically got to feel like there is always a lot of judgment or people always will jump to the,

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