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It's Bullseye, I'm Jesse Thorn.

The first time I had the opportunity to chat with my next guest, Killer My, he was just

coming off the release of his solo album, I Pledge Allegiance to the Grind, was back in 2007.

It's now 14 years later and I'm proud to report, Killer Mike is still on his grind.

He's one half of the critically acclaimed hip-hop duo Run the Jewels, whose fourth album drop

last year. He's active in politics too. He recently campaigned for Senators John Asuf and

Raphael Warnock to represent his home state of Georgia. He also joined Bernie Sanders in

Bessimer, Alabama to support the Amazon workers trying to form a union there. Mike is on screen a lot

more these days too. He's acted in movies like Baby Driver and TV shows like The Good Lord Bird.

When he and I talked in 2019, he had his very own Netflix show, a documentary series called

Trigger Warning with Killer Mike. In the show, Killer Mike tackles some of the most complicated, racial

and social issues in America and like everything Killer Mike does, he does not do it halfway.

In the first episode, Mike tries to spend three days buying, using and consuming products

that have only come from the black community and it turns out to be very, very difficult.

In this scene, Mike heads to the Black owned Doggone Good Barbecue in Athens, Georgia,

where he meets LP, his co-MC in Run the Jewels. At this point, Mike hasn't had a meal in a long time,

almost an entire day, so he is very excited to finally get something. He's allowed to eat.

Yeah, here you go. Black owned restaurant. Black owned by the pro black owned produce and

and meat probably right from a black farm. What's up? Excuse me, sir. Yes, sir.

My wife, friend, just reminded me I'm living so black that I'm technically only supposed to eat

meat from a black farm or produce. Please tell me like this came from the West Georgia,

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