‘This has been the scariest, weirdest and certainly the most important work of my life. It’s been an investigation where lives were, at times, literally on the line, and one that has profoundly altered many of the people who were a part of it’. Carl Miller The final minutes of the first episode of Carl Miller’s new Wondery and Novel podcast on stumbling across a secret online ‘kill list’ will stop you in your tracks. It’s a remarkable moment of storytelling and reporting – where Carl is forced to cold call innocent members of the public to tell them that someone wants them dead. From that moment the story just keeps getting more dramatic. The podcast series, which has already reached number 1 in the UK, US, Australia, Canada, New Zealand and Ireland Apple podcast charts, is an astonishing five-year investigation into the targeting of hundreds of innocent people on a murder-for-hire website. When the police are slow to investigate, Carl has to take it upon himself in a race against time to try and save innocent lives – potentially putting himself and others in danger. In December 2024, Carl Miller and the show’s producers Caroline Thornham and Tom Wright brought Kill List live to the Intelligence Squared stage in London. Using audio clips, outtakes and sharing previously untold backstories about the making of the series they told this almost unbelievable story, revealed new twists and answered audience questions in a live Q&A. This event is in partnership with Wondery and Novel This is the first instalment of a two-part episode. If you'd like to become a Member and get access to all our full ad free conversations, plus all of our Members-only content, just visit intelligencesquared.com/membership to find out more. For £4.99 per month you'll also receive: - Full-length and ad-free Intelligence Squared episodes, wherever you get your podcasts - Bonus Intelligence Squared podcasts, curated feeds and members exclusive series - 15% discount on livestreams and in-person tickets for all Intelligence Squared events  ...  Or Subscribe on Apple for £4.99: - Full-length and ad-free Intelligence Squared podcasts - Bonus Intelligence Squared podcasts, curated feeds and members exclusive series … Already a subscriber? Thank you for supporting our mission to foster honest debate and compelling conversations! Visit intelligencesquared.com to explore all your benefits including ad-free podcasts, exclusive bonus content and early access. … Subscribe to our newsletter here to hear about our latest events, discounts and much more. https://www.intelligencesquared.com/newsletter-signup/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices