Trust me, do it, trust me, trust me, trust me, I'm like a smart person.

Yeah, I've never lied to you. I've never had lied.

If you think that one person has all the answers, don't!

Welcome to Trust Me, the podcast about Cole's extreme belief and the abusive power from two

beings who've actually experienced it. I am Lola Blonk and I am Megan Elizabeth.

Today our guest is Killian Alenbacher. He is a visual effects artist and Los Angeles

who grew up in a new age Christian organization called The Church Universal and Triumphant.

He's going to tell us about growing up believing that the world was ending very soon,

living with a group that was building elaborate bomb shelters, enormous bomb shelters,

on a compound in Montana, working on the cult's farm as a child and following the leader

Elizabeth Claire Prophet who claimed to be in communication with spiritual beings called The Masters.

We're also going to talk about the red flags. He began to see how his dad taught him to question

everything and how these critical thinking skills helped him realize he didn't want to be

involved anymore. When he was still a just a kid, we'll hear all about that very soon.

Yes, we will. Well, why did I turn into a cheesy TV host there? I don't know.

Welcome. Maybe that's my true self. I kind of feel like that. I feel like this is really,

really authentic for you, Lola. God dammit. Is this who I am? You win a cult. You win a cult.

Oh, my God. What cult did I win? Don't make me think that fast. That's too early for the

shit. Yeah, it's a kid. Hey, so Megan, what's the cult do thing that happened to you this week?

I have been noticing in myself a tendency to thinking really in kind of fear circles.

Killians story this week kind of encapsulates what my brain is doing right now. I'm like,

everything feels dangerous. I need to get out of here. I need to go live in some

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