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‘Kids Are Dying. How Are These Sites Still Allowed?’

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The New York Times

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4.597.8K Ratings

🗓️ 9 December 2021

⏱️ 34 minutes

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This episode contains details about suicide deaths and strong language. A few years ago, a website about suicide appeared. On it, not only do people talk about wanting to die, but they share, at great length, how they are going to do it. Times reporters were able to identify 45 people who killed themselves after spending time on the site, several of whom were minors. The true number is likely to be higher. We go inside the Times investigation into the website, and ask how and why it is still allowed to operate. If you are having thoughts of suicide or are concerned that someone you know may be having those thoughts, in the United States call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 800-273-8255 (TALK) or go to SpeakingOfSuicide.com/resources for a list of additional resources. Go here for resources outside the United States. Guest: Megan Twohey, an investigative reporter for The New York Times; and Gabriel J.X. Dance, deputy investigations editor for The Times.

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Hey, it's Michael, a quick note.


Today's episode covers suicide and contains details about suicide deaths.


If you're having thoughts of suicide or are concerned that someone you know may be having


those thoughts, the number for the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline is 1-800-273-8255.


There are links to additional resources in today's show notes.


Let me remind you a little bit about me.


I've been working on this story with a reporting partner, somebody named Gabriel Dance.


We are both reporters in the Investigations Unit at the New York Times.


And so today on the daily.


So Megan and I have been looking specifically at a site where they say they want to be


a place where people can speak freely about suicide.


A Times investigation.


The site we've been working to identify the people who run the site and some...


Into a website that facilitates suicide.


We think that quite a few accountable parties should explain why a site like this is


allowed to stay up.


And what is your biggest concern about the website from what you've learned about it since?




Kids of dying.


I'm sure you've told a certain sort of parents that they know that they're actually




I spoke with my colleagues, Megan Tuey and Gabriel Dance, about why the site is so uniquely


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