Welcome to the Andy Stanley Leadership Podcast, a conversation designed to help leaders go further faster.

Today on the podcast, we'll be bringing you an interview that Andy conducted for our friends at

Catalyst with author Charles Dewey. This will continue a conversation we began

back in September as Andy explored the idea ofstone habits. Without further delay, here's Andy and Charles.

Hi, I'm Andy Stanley and I'm sitting here with my brand new friend Charles Dewhig with his not-so-brand new book. It's been out two years. About two years. The power of habit. I read it the year that it came out. I absolutely love this book. I bet there's some of you who have it, but you're not in the habit of reading and so one of the

first habits you should develop is the habit of reading. This is a fantastic book and

so we're going to talk a little bit about it but our goal is for basically this

conversation to sort of bait you into or to wet your appetite for wanting

to read more about this extraordinary topic that's relevant to all of us.

And this is a research-based book.

This isn't simply someone's opinion. I love this book. I'll tell you why in just a minute,

but to get started, Charles, in your book you make the point that I think was it 45% of all of our activities, or bad are somehow related to habit.

Absolutely and you can recognize it when you start looking at your life right?

You become accustomed to these things that you do without thinking about.

For example.

You can, you're sitting at your desk and you remember leaving the house and now you're at your

desk and you don't remember exactly how you drove there, right?

Are driving home from college?

Absolutely, absolutely.

Or when you, in the morning you want to eat a salad and you hit the cafeteria lunchtime and you go get the

sandwich that you get every single day.

What happens is that our brain has this instinct to make anything we do on a

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