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Pushback with Aaron Mate

Key Mueller witness exposes key Russiagate lies

Pushback with Aaron Mate

Pushback with Aaron Maté

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4.7594 Ratings

🗓️ 17 November 2020

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

Former Trump 2016 campaign deputy chair Rick Gates was once widely portrayed as the key Mueller witness who would expose Trump-Russia collusion. Gates' testimony ended up seriously undermining the collusion conspiracy theory, but that has done little to undo the media narrative. Gates joins Pushback to debunk several key Russiagate conspiracy theories: that Konstantin Kilimnik is a Russian spy; that Paul Manafort served Russian interests in Ukraine; and that Roger Stone gave the Trump campaign advance notice on Wikileaks' release of stolen Democratic Party emails. Guest: Rick Gates. Former Trump 2016 deputy campaign chairman, cooperating witness in the Mueller investigation, and author of "Wicked Game: An Insider's Story on How Trump Won, Mueller Failed, and America Lost." Support Pushback at Patreon: www.patreon.com/aaronmate

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0:00.0

Welcome to Pushback. I'm Aaron Matte. In 2016, Rick Gates served as the deputy chair of the Trump campaign for president.

0:13.6

But since then, he has played a much different role on the national stage. In October 2017, Rick Gates was indicted as part of Special Counsel Robert

0:23.4

Mueller's Russia investigation. And from that point forward, Rick Gates has played a central

0:28.5

role in the nonstop conspiracy theories and innuendo about a possible Trump-Russia plot.

0:36.2

Many media outlets speculated that Rick Gates would be the one to deliver the smoking

0:40.5

gun of collusion.

0:42.5

Tonight for the first time, CNN is learning that a key figure in the investigation,

0:46.5

a figure who is a cooperating witness, we should point out, is helping Mueller make the

0:50.7

collusion case.

0:51.7

Now, I want to underscore those two words. He's helping.

0:54.9

That witness is Rick Gates.

0:56.4

And what are you learning about Rick Gates and what Mueller wants from him?

1:00.3

What he needed Gates' help with was the core mission of the special counsel, which is

1:05.6

the ties between Trump campaign and alleged ties between the Trump campaign and Russians and Wolf.

1:12.3

What this means is that the special counsel is looking specifically at making the case of Russian collusion.

1:19.1

What Gates was in a front row seat to see, what he was part of with a better vantage point than almost anybody else on earth,

1:26.2

was the central question of what was actually

1:29.3

going on between the Trump campaign and Russia.

1:33.9

And now he's Mueller's star cooperating witness.

1:37.9

Tada.

1:39.7

Well, we all know how it turned out.

1:42.1

The Mueller investigation found no conspiracy between Trump and Russia, but that hasn't stopped

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