Remember I was like I can't swim dude when we're doing fury. I was like and you were like man

I'll teach you you know like and this dude like a

Killer whale loaded like all the way across the underwater then he floated back like he shot back

Then he went back. I've never in my life seen anybody better in the water than you

What does it mean to be a warrior?

That's a that's a big label, you know

Yeah, I think I would look at it like what does it mean to be a better man?

Really and and that's that development. I don't think ever stops

I think we're always working on it whether we're fathers, you know brothers, sisters, community members

We're part of organizations or corporations or whatever it is

You know, it's all about continuing to cultivate yourself and and being open to alternative narratives too is I think it's so easy

You know today and in the state of our country and and being as polarized as it is is it's so easy to choose a side

You mean that's easy. Yep, you know my conversations with my friends that I love

You know many of the conversations we have is about kind of sitting on the fence

You know and being open to a varying

Opinions and dialogue on issues and where does that come from? I mean you built because it sort of sort of not flag waving from either side

It's no one's going to think for me. That's right. So it comes from it and that bit because you've seen enough

Well, it's you you go overseas and you you have an idea of what real destitution is what real poverty is

Right

What real suffering is under tyranny or oppression and you come home and you love your country and you say wow

What vast abundance we have right we got work to do right

We certainly have a lot of things that we got to address here and we got to be adult about it

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