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Hey, Ben, Kevin Fishbin from The Athletic.

Joining us now is our friend from the Athletic, Kevin Fishbane.

I got fishy business, Kay Fish Bay.

Fishy business.

Fishy business. What I call it whenever I happen on the show, fishy business. Kevin Fishbane, senior writer for the athletic he covers the Chicago Bears. Why is Caleb Williams so polarizing? Well, Dan, for one thing, if Caleb Williams becomes Russell Wilson 2.0, Bears fans would be thrilled. They have statues of him lining like Michigan.

I need answers. I need Kevin Fishbane. Bring in Fishbane. Bring me Fishbane, the senior NFL writer for the athletic. That's a good fantasy man joining us. Bring me Fishbane. Yes.

And this smiling man can be our avatar.

Obviously, sports radio in the state of Illinois, you don't get that by accident he does a wonderful job for those guys

Ben first drive of the third quarter you got that little short completion of wrong they didn't touch him and he wanted to push the pile

Dan I think we're losing you a little bit we'll go to Kevin and then we'll come back to you um hey ben I can ask a question I'm sure Dan will want to ask

Spiegel and Holmes.

Afternoons on the score.

We love talking with Kevin Fishman.

He's great to us and does an incredible job of covering the Bears for the athletic.

If you're watching on Twitch, like, wait, where are Lawrence go?

I moved over because we have some sort of audio issue and we can't figure out where it is.

So we think it was in my mic, but maybe it's not.

So I might be playing musical mics for the rest of the show.

Russ Dorsey is here sitting in for Speaks and we are talking all sorts of stuff.

It's had a great conversation with Craig Counsel.

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