With Stugats and Hockman.

I mean, the first edition of With Stugats and Hockman for 2006.

No one thought we'd make it this far.

No, they did not.

Happy New Year to you, Mark Hockman, to you Taylor, and to the audience.

Happy New Year to everyone.

You're right.

No one thought we'd make it too much.

You're right.

And I'm talking about the people who were listening in 2004. No one thought we'd make it too much. You're right. And I'm talking about the people who were listening in 2004.

No one thought.

I'd tell you what.

Go back to Mark Hockman in 2004 and ask me after the first few weeks of the

Lebitard show, did I think in 200626 I would be meeting Stugats for coffee in Boca

and wouldn't have talked to my best friend Dan in like five years?

I'd go, you're crazy.

Dan used to say to me at the beginning when we started working together, you know, people, we were best friends in college, or good friends, I should say, in college. Yes. But he used to say to me all the time, he goes, you know, friends who create rock bands together inevitably break up. Yeah. Now go, yeah, whatever. Come on, we're having fun. We're doing the show. Yeah.

Visionary. In 2006, I don't know if I have his phone number. He used to say it on the air all the time, too. This is what breaks up rock bands. And I'm like, huh. Yeah. Makes it seem like it was all planned. I don't know. So here's some DMs that, yeah, he was planting the seeds early.

He knew he wanted out from me, from my friendship.

He was planting seeds with both of us.

I was playing chess.

I was playing checkers.

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