Hi, Gary Steerman time time for another update from Prophecy Watchers.

And I'm very pleased to have in studio today, Ken Johnson.

Of course, Ken is an author whose books we have featured for many, many years.

Ken, your latest book, Ancient Testaments of the Patriarchs,

it's amazing. I love this book. And welcome to Prophecy Watchers. Thank you. Good to have you here

because talking to you is unlike talking to anybody else we speak to. You are, I don't know quite how to describe you,

but you love to delve into the dark corners, dark recesses of history, and bring out little

nuggets that other people would not think to look for. What started you on that trail? I'm just

very curious, and I love prophecy and anything that might be connected

with anything I want to explore. Well you know when you think of the prophet, patriarchs that is,

you don't usually think of prophecy. No, I didn't until this research. A prophet is a prophet

like Elijah commissioned by the Lord, Elisha. We think of the prophets

of the Old Testament, Zechariah, who talked about the latter days and so forth. And they're

very dramatic and clear in their presentations. Isaiah talks about dramatic events, you know,

and the tribulation and all kinds of things like that. The patriarchs, you think of as people who were directed

by God to set up a historical pattern that would result in the formation of the nation, Israel,

at some point.

But you don't think of them as people.

And like when I think of the Apostle Paul, I think of a human being because his personality comes through his epistles.

And he, you know, he expresses emotion, so forth and so on.

I've never thought about the patriarchs in that particular way until I read this book

and suddenly they came alive. They are real people and this is amazing.

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