Welcome to the Eric Metaxis show with your host, Eric Metaxis.

Hey there, folks.

This is the Eric Mataxis show.

Today I'll be playing the role of Eric Metaxis.

I know him pretty well. I think I can swing it. Here's the issue. On this show, I interview people. Typically, I interview people that have amazing stories. If you're not familiar with Ken Fish, who is now a dear friend of mine, you're in for a big treat.

That's all I'll say.

Ken Fish, welcome to the program.

Hi, Eric.

Thanks.

It's great to be back.

Listen, you, I met you at a spiritual warfare conference, maybe five years ago now. I was working on a book as I usually am. I didn't have time. Suzanne kind of dragged me. She said, no, no, no, you have to go.

I signed you up. I showed up, and I saw, with my own eyes, God use you in the gifts of the Holy Spirit to do healing and deliverance and all that

stuff. Now, I always believed in this stuff, but I'd never seen it up close. And obviously,

I was hooked because ever since I came to faith, I've said, I want to see this stuff.

John Wimber used to call it the stuff. When are we going to do the

stuff? The stuff that Jesus did, the stuff that we're supposed to be deputized to do by the power

of the Holy Spirit. And it was through you, Ken Fish, that I really saw this up close for the first

time. And of course, it has encouraged me to earnestly desire the spiritual gifts. Is that biblical,

by the way? I think it's quite biblical. It comes right out of 1st Corinthians 14. What do you know?

So, Ken, I want to introduce my audience to you who don't already know you. A lot of people

listening right now already know you.

Your ministry is Orbis Ministries, ORBIS. That's the new name. Yeah. All right. Let me just ask you,

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