This is Kelly's later my hero who is the greatest surfer in world history. He's 11 times

legitimately 11 times world champion and does a lot of other amazing things with his life and

really I wanted you on here because Kelly has been in a battle for her basically his entire

conscious life with a lot of the same villains that I've been fighting the oil industry, the

plastics industry and the fat and whole brothers in Florida his homestay the big sugar industry down

there so and I wanted to talk to you about all that stuff. We talk a little bit about the

aspect of clean water in the surf culture. In the surf culture yes so you know I've said for a

long time that we're kind of the canaries in the coal mine when it comes to surfing the surfers are

in the ocean. I mean there's more ocean and water pollution things than we can even imagine places

like India, China it's an overwhelming task to even start to penetrate the pollution that's in

the oceans. The ocean 75% of the earth 70% of the earth we don't access more than a very small

percentage of that so the oceans are just filled with all the stuff all the fishing debris

and you know the fishing topic is a whole other thing industrial fishing commercial fishing is really

I would say ruining the oceans I don't think there's anything wrong with somebody going and

catching dinner on a line or or throwing a net but when you get into what commercial fishing is

and that whole thing that that's another thing I'm you know you're not going to make any friends

talking about it but it's it's awful and from what I hear from fishermen when they say dolphin

save for your tuna that's not true they just tag that on the on they just stamp that on their

on their cartons so I don't even know where to start with ocean. There's so many scary pollutants

out in the world in the air in the water but people dump their oil and they don't and there's

nothing to spill your gas if you have a leak it in a boat you know once you're a mile or five

miles or 20 miles offshore you can dump certain or a limited number or anything you want in the ocean

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