Kelly Siegel - CEO of NTM & Author of Harder Than Life | He Grew Up on 8 Mile Road and Built an Empire From Nothing

Success Story with Scott D. Clary

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How To, Business, Education, Self-improvement

4.6 • 326 Ratings

🗓️ 8 May 2026

⏱️ 82 minutes

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➡️ Join 321,000 people who read my free weekly newsletter: https://newsletter.scottdclary.com ➡️ Like The Podcast? Leave A Rating: https://ratethispodcast.com/successstory Kelly Siegel is the CEO of National Technology Management (NTM), a leading IT security company he has built over more than two decades, and the author of Harder Than Life: Overcoming Poverty, Addiction, and Violence. Raised near 8 Mile Road in Detroit — where survival took priority over comfort — he carried the weight of a difficult childhood into adulthood, but channeled it into relentless drive. His mission is to break his family's cycle of abuse, addiction, and poverty, while pushing himself daily through physical training, voracious reading, and mindfulness. Beyond the boardroom, Kelly is also the host of the Harder Than Life podcast and a sought-after coach and speaker, dedicated to mentoring the next generation of leaders and — in his own words — leaving a dent on the world. ➡️ Show Links https://www.instagram.com/kelly.siegel.71/ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCncVFeA5P2LrAovuofQQcDg https://www.harderthanlife.com ➡️ Podcast Sponsors Hubspot - https://hubspot.com/ Huel - https://huel.com/scott (Code: scott) Demand Decoded - https://www.blendb2b.com/demand-decoded NetSuite - https://netsuite.com/scottclary/ Indeed - https://indeed.com/clary Framer - https://framer.com/design (Code: SuccessStory) LinkedIn Ads - https://linkedin.com/scottclary Priori - https://priori.life/ Mars Men - https://mengotomars.com/ Granola - https://www.granola.ai/success Upwork - https://upwork.com/ Xero - https://www.xero.com Dell - dell.com/dell-pro AutoPilot - https://www.joinautopilot.com/landing ➡️ Talking Points 00:00 – Intro 01:28 – Growing Up Near 8 Mile 04:38 – The Wake-Up Call at 43 09:27 – Healing Childhood Trauma 15:09 – The “Harder Than Life” Mindset 21:51 – How to Ignore Life’s Noise 23:21 – Sponsor Break 25:56 – What Sobriety Revealed 38:48 – How Alcohol Clouds Your Mind 43:04 – Sponsor Break 44:54 – Why Society Needs God 55:26 – Parenting After Trauma 1:02:48 – How Sobriety Changed His Business 1:14:34 – The Lesson for His Daughter

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0:00.0	HubSpot is a success story partner.
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0:04.1	You are probably multitasking.
0:05.5	You are probably catching maybe 70 to 80% of what I'm saying.
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0:55.8	picture today. So my entire upbringing until I was 16 years old, I was scared to death. That's why I'm
1:01.3	fearless now. It took me years to overcome that. This is how I did an EMDR therapy. To make me
1:05.9	harder than life, because life was going to be hard. What if the life you were born into was never meant to define you?
1:12.4	Kelly Siegel grew up surrounded by abuse, addiction, and chaos.
1:16.1	But instead of becoming a product of that environment, he made a decision to break the cycle.
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